ESPN analysts talking trade prospects for some eastern conference teams and are suggesting the Sixers take any first rounder for Okafor. Hard to believe that Flip was at one point favoring him for our #1 pick.
I know that Okafor wouldn't fit here at all given our logjam at the 5, but if any first for Oak is the realistic rate it really makes that Payne trade even worse. At least Oak still has some upside as a bench scorer type in the Al Jefferson role. Several here pointed out that limiting future trade flexibility was going to be an issue and it was exaggerated by the thought that Payne was a really poor prospect at the time given his age and poor performance.
Pretty much every team in the league would have taken him (like Derrick Williams?) in the top 3. And it seemed like within a month or two everyone realized Okafor wasn't any good.
Thank God Flip changed his mind.
Sometimes big men take a while to come around, so maybe he will too. But that's a huge bust. Very surprising.
I know many of you (if not all of you) are disappointed with how this year has gone. I'm going to pull out some optimism to start the weekend. In '14-15 the +/- per game was -8.8. Last year it was -3.5. Right now we're at -.9. Could we easily have a better record with all of the close losses? Of course! But winning close games on a consistent basis is a sign that a team is playoff worthy/contenders. We are not there yet, but we are getting closer. Many of us wanted this to be the year we make a big jump and make the playoffs as an 8 seed. Whether we make the 8 seed or not, next year will be the true "jump" in my opinion. We will have our nucleus more seasoned, we will have money for a vet or 2 in FA, and we will have another top 10 pick. We are in a good spot-be patient people!
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The Pistons and Magic have discussed a trade that would send Reggie Jackson to Orlando for D.J. Augustin and Jeff Green, league sources say.
11:45 AM - 17 Feb 2017
I think this pretty much confirms that Detroit called us about a Ricky for Reggie swap - and that we shot them down.
I don't even like Jackson, but this would be a horrible deal for Detroit from a talent standpoint. They must really want to dump his contract.
Last edited by LEvine; 02-17-2017 at 05:13 PM.
While I dont disagree with you in theory, I personally think that we have enough "youth" on this team..especially if we keep Dunn and Tyus around. At some point we need to bring in people who actually know how to play basketball and not wait for the young players to pick it up. I've disagreed with Thibs approach this year (everyone sinking or swiming together) and really dont want to see another year of it. I'd be more apt to agree with your take if the players we were counting on to teach our rookie had more of a pedigree than "could be really good some day". Unless the player we get at (insert draft position) is somehow a guy we absolutely cant pass on....I'd prefer we try to move the pick for an established, proven, 2 way player.
I would not be opposed to bumping down and making a trade with Portland to get their two firsts to fill gaps depending on where things shake out after the lottery.
(and regarding adding more youth, I get the argument to trade for a player but I'm not sure the market for established players is going to be sufficient to warrant cashing out on a pick just to get him...unless it's a package deal where we get a Paul George/Jimmy Butler type)
Inching back towards the wagon...slowly...