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  1. #1

    2018 is this the year?

    Wait until next year is almost here!
    It doesn’t matter if you are a king or street sweeper pretty soon you will dance with the reaper!

    Its better to be silent and everyone think your an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    “Statistics are no substitute for judgment”
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    All depends on the QB and health of the team is my take. I think they do it this year.

    Either way it will be fun to hear the packer backers cry when old man Aaron Rodgers goes down again whether from our defense or some other team.
    Publicity, fame and accolades can make a theory popular. They can't make it true.


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    I wonder what they will do with the offensive line coach after the death of coach Sparano? I thought former Vikes HC Tice was a great OL coach. He's out of a job and mostly retired but I wonder if he's an option.


  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick K View Post
    I wonder what they will do with the offensive line coach after the death of coach Sparano? I thought former Vikes HC Tice was a great OL coach. He's out of a job and mostly retired but I wonder if he's an option.
    I think Tice would be a big mistake. He coaches a very different scheme than what we use and has no connection to any of the players or coaches. It would be a setup for failure.

    Our TE coach, Clancy Barone, was previously the O-Line coach for the Broncos. I think it has to be him or Assistant OL Coach, Andrew Janocko.
    Last edited by LEvine; 07-24-2018 at 10:31 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LEvine View Post
    I think Tice would be a big mistake. He coaches a very different scheme than what we use and has no connection to any of the players or coaches. It would be a setup for failure.

    Our TE coach, Clancy Barone, was previously the O-Line coach for the Broncos. I think it has to be him or Assistant OL Coach, Andrew Janocko.
    Makes sense. The legendary Alex Gibbs who created that zone blocking scheme was at Denver and Barone probably coached with him. He certainly has the pedigree and the Vikings like to promote from within. Both those guys are solid. Good call.


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    Off thread but the Pioneer Planet ran a Vikings article yesterday which included a full video of The Vikings-Rams MNF game Oct 26, 1970 edited with no commercials. It was still 2 hours but it brought up a ton of memories when I was a kid. It was great to see Eller, Marshall, Page and Larson in their prime. The offensive line wasn't bad either with Ed White, Mick Tinglehoff, Grady Alderman, Ron Yary, Milt Sunde. What a group! Maybe the very best offensive-defensive lines on any one team at the same time.

    Don Meredith, Howard Cosell, and Keith Jackson were pretty low key that night. That was the first year of MNF. Name after name of the production crew are legendary. It was fun.

    https://www.twincities.com/2018/07/2...ame-from-1970/


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    Tice would be a poor fit. I think they hire from within for this year and then see what happens next offseason. This is a tragedy but what is concerning in the field is the offensive line is usually the tightest unit on the team and there isn’t a way to predict how this group will react to the loss of they’re coach. It’s a terrible start to the season.
    It doesn’t matter if you are a king or street sweeper pretty soon you will dance with the reaper!

    Its better to be silent and everyone think your an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    “Statistics are no substitute for judgment”
    Henry Clay


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    Quote Originally Posted by LEvine View Post
    I think Tice would be a big mistake. He coaches a very different scheme than what we use and has no connection to any of the players or coaches. It would be a setup for failure.

    Our TE coach, Clancy Barone, was previously the O-Line coach for the Broncos. I think it has to be him or Assistant OL Coach, Andrew Janocko.
    Great call. Zimmer just named both Barone and Janocko co-offensive line coaches.

    BTW, they contacted Tice first but couldn't quite work it out.

    https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/7...e-line-coaches


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    I just like that the team is all in on trying to make it.
    They really are exhausting every possible controllable barrier.


  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by StretchArmstrong View Post
    I just like that the team is all in on trying to make it.
    They really are exhausting every possible controllable barrier.
    They have done good things but their offensive line is still a little questionable to me. We'll see.


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    Report: Stefon Diggs gets five-year, $72 million extension.

    That makes him the 9th highest paid receiver. Sounds like too much to me,


  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick K View Post
    Report: Stefon Diggs gets five-year, $72 million extension.

    That makes him the 9th highest paid receiver. Sounds like too much to me,
    Its a great deal. He's only 24 years old and was going to get offered more than that next year. And by doing it now, we were able to put some of the signing bonus into 2018, lessening future cap hits.

    I expect a HUGE year from him. He's got, possibly, the best feet of any WR in the game, and he finally has a QB that gets the ball out quickly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LEvine View Post
    Its a great deal. He's only 24 years old and was going to get offered more than that next year. And by doing it now, we were able to put some of the signing bonus into 2018, lessening future cap hits.

    I expect a HUGE year from him. He's got, possibly, the best feet of any WR in the game, and he finally has a QB that gets the ball out quickly.
    You know me...I think too many guys are vastly overpaid. I was expecting more like 9 million per. He gets a 40 million signing bonus too??? It's good to be Diggs.

    I really like Diggs but he's short and durability has been a question. At least I'm finally starting to believe in the Vikings front office for the first time in 30 years. It looks like they agree with you.


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    Uh, seeing that players who did not play as well as he did last year are getting paid more, it is a great deal. And it is for 5 years, which locks him up long term
    He was reasonable in his demands.
    I'm not sure how you can say a player who took a contract lower than the current FA market was too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by LEvine View Post
    Its a great deal. He's only 24 years old and was going to get offered more than that next year. And by doing it now, we were able to put some of the signing bonus into 2018, lessening future cap hits.

    I expect a HUGE year from him. He's got, possibly, the best feet of any WR in the game, and he finally has a QB that gets the ball out quickly.


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    Yes, it is still questionable. But, how do you fix it? I'd have preferred drafting O-line in the first round and not taking a prospect player at OT in round 2.

    But, there must be something we are not aware of. It appears Remmer's is going to move to RG permanently. There must be some confidence in the options they have at RT.



    Quote Originally Posted by Nick K View Post
    They have done good things but their offensive line is still a little questionable to me. We'll see.


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    Remmers hasn’t even been in the starting lineup during most of camp. Easton and Isadora have been at the Guard positions. This draft was filled with developmental offensive lineman even the guys who went in round 1 were not great talents and several might end up at guard. Taking a CB in round 1 was a great move because we are short on playable talent. Rhodes and Waynes are good starters as a duo but then we have Alexander and Newsome. We needed a talent there plus a guy that returns kicks and punts can open up another roster spot. Sherels doesn’t appear to be as dangerous as he once was.
    It doesn’t matter if you are a king or street sweeper pretty soon you will dance with the reaper!

    Its better to be silent and everyone think your an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    “Statistics are no substitute for judgment”
    Henry Clay


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    You need to follow the Vikings better.
    Remmers has been practicing. He is playing at OG.
    Not sure where you are getting your news from.

    I am a leader of a National Viking fan club/group. I get information on the team. I get info pretty regularly. I know people watching Camp right now and reporting what they are seeing.


  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf on the Prowl View Post
    Remmers hasn’t even been in the starting lineup during most of camp. Easton and Isadora have been at the Guard positions. This draft was filled with developmental offensive lineman even the guys who went in round 1 were not great talents and several might end up at guard. Taking a CB in round 1 was a great move because we are short on playable talent. Rhodes and Waynes are good starters as a duo but then we have Alexander and Newsome. We needed a talent there plus a guy that returns kicks and punts can open up another roster spot. Sherels doesn’t appear to be as dangerous as he once was.
    Sherels might not make it and that would be a shame. Sherels might not be the most exciting of players but he has sure hands and doesn't make mistakes. He seems to get yardage on plays where he shouldn't. I like him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StretchArmstrong View Post
    You need to follow the Vikings better.
    Remmers has been practicing. He is playing at OG.
    Not sure where you are getting your news from.

    I am a leader of a National Viking fan club/group. I get information on the team. I get info pretty regularly. I know people watching Camp right now and reporting what they are seeing.
    I certainly do. After the draft I don't follow them much until halfway through camp. Glad to hear you're up to speed, I appreciate the info.


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    Camp info that is not in the media yet, Remmers, left the practice field in a boot yesterday. Ugh.

    As for Sherels, yeah he is probably not going to make the team this year. The team is loaded at DB from the draft and after draft acquisitions.
    It may also be very tough for Newman to make the team as a CB. Hughes and Hill will both have spots on the roster. Hill has been impressing everyone in camp so far.

    Rhodes, Wayne, Alexander, Hughes, and Hill will make the team. It may be the deepest this team has ever been at CB.
    The issue with Sherels is he is only a PR and cannot play on Defense. Will the team keep him as a specialist?
    Newman could possibly make as a Safety back up/CB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick K View Post
    I certainly do. After the draft I don't follow them much until halfway through camp. Glad to hear you're up to speed, I appreciate the info.



 

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